Looking for a liquid film dev. with results like D-76? (2025)

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09-05-2018, 08:50 AM	#1
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,732	Looking for a liquid film dev. with results like D-76? Anyone know of a liquid developer that delivers images similar to D-76? Trying to get a home dev "kit" together from the ground up and need all hardware & chemicals. Curious what would be recommended for a developer and the other chemicals needed for traditional film development. Starting with B&W due to it seeming easier for a beginner vs. C-41.

09-05-2018, 08:59 AM	#2
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,920	Why not just use D-76? https://www.freestylephoto.biz/1464817-Kodak-D-76-Film-Developer-to-Make-1-Gallon

09-05-2018, 09:04 AM	#3
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Freestyle sells something called Clayton F76 that is claimed to give results similar to D76. I have never used it, but it might be worth giving a try since it is not that expensive. Clayton F76 Plus Film Developer - 1 Quart \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies Steve

09-05-2018, 09:10 AM	#4
stevebrot Otis Memorial Pentaxian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vancouver (USA) Photos: Gallery \| Albums Posts: 42,007	Originally posted by clickclick Why not just use D-76? Kodak D-76 Film Developer to Make 1 Gallon \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies I can think of a couple of reasons: Mixing from powder is a bit messy and includes the hazard of being exposed to the dust The stock solution, once made up, has poor shelf life Storage of a concentrated liquid requires less shelf space Steve

09-05-2018, 09:12 AM	#5
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,732 Original Poster	Originally posted by clickclick Why not just use D-76? Kodak D-76 Film Developer to Make 1 Gallon \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies Wanting to work with liquid developer. Seems easier to measure out a small amount at a time and use as needed. Reading opinions online, it seems like trying to measure out powder developer for small batches of soup isn't so predictable and may not contain accurate ratios of the involved chemicals. I did read about Clayton F76 and it seemed interesting. That said, it might be half way between DD-X and D-76 as far as results are concerned. And that doesn't seem like a bad thing... I'm leaning towards F76 but wanted to ask here first.

09-05-2018, 09:13 AM	#6
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,339	Clayton F76 Plus Film Developer comes in liquid form and is designed to match D-76. If you want one-shot there are other developers such as ILFOSOL 3.

09-05-2018, 09:29 AM	#7
clickclick Loyal Site Supporter Join Date: May 2016 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,920	Originally posted by pres589 Seems easier to measure out a small amount at a time and use as needed. Makes perfect sense. I've been measuring it out a quart at a time and using collapsible bottles, but even then, it's still tedious.

09-05-2018, 10:26 AM - 1 Like

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d 76 developer

kodak hc110 results are almost identically to d 76, but it has a very long shelf life, the same for agfa rodinal which is on the market under several other names, R09 See macodirect for information,I dont think it is allowed to send liquids over the Atlantic.

09-05-2018, 10:42 AM	#9
abruzzi Veteran Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: New Mexico Posts: 793	most powder developers strongly recommend against partial use of the powder, because the different chemicals in the powder may not be evenly distributed in the package.

09-05-2018, 10:59 AM	#10
pres589 Site Supporter Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Wichita, KS Photos: Albums Posts: 4,732 Original Poster	Originally posted by abruzzi most powder developers strongly recommend against partial use of the powder, because the different chemicals in the powder may not be evenly distributed in the package. Yes, as I mentioned, this is what I'd like to avoid. If I get some time this evening I'll try to get an order made for chemicals and equipment. I feel like I need to figure out needs for stop, wetting agent, et cetera.

09-05-2018, 11:06 AM	#11
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,556	Originally posted by pres589 Anyone know of a liquid developer that delivers images similar to D-76? Originally posted by stevebrot Freestyle sells something called Clayton F76 that is claimed to give results similar to D76. Steve Originally posted by tuco If you want one-shot there are other developers such as ILFOSOL 3. I used Clayton Rapid Fixer for years and found it an equivalent replacement to Kodak or Ilford fixers. Ilford Ilfosol 3 and Arista Premium developer from Freestyle are also good options. If you're shooting Ilford, Kentmere, or Arista films, I'd go with the Ilfosol. If you're developing Kodak TMax, I'd used the more expensive TMax developer. If you're shooting Ilford Delta, I'd use DD-X. But the best general film developers across many emulsions IME has been Kodak XTol and Ilford ID-11. But for a D76 match, Clayton F76 is the closest AND it's packaged as a liquid stock as you asked.

09-05-2018, 11:26 AM	#12
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,339	Originally posted by Alex645 If you're shooting Ilford, Kentmere, or Arista films, I'd go with the Ilfosol. If you're developing Kodak TMax, I'd used the more expensive TMax developer. If you're shooting Ilford Delta, I'd use DD-X. I shoot Ilford films with PMK Pyro and Rodinal. PMK is good for highlight compression work that I do a lot. It's one-shot and shelf life of 10 years. But hand waving talk is cheap. Check out my recent posts from the Salt Flats and a fair in the Medium format section for examples of PMK in action. Last edited by tuco; 09-05-2018 at 11:47 AM.

09-05-2018, 11:30 AM	#13
Alex645 Site Supporter Join Date: May 2015 Location: Kaneohe, HI Photos: Albums Posts: 3,556	Originally posted by pres589 what would be recommended for the other chemicals needed for traditional film development. Starting with B&W due to it seeming easier for a beginner vs. C-41. In addition to the developer, you're going to want to get: a) Stop Bath. Indicator stop baths are nice so you can see when they are exhausted, but if you don't have good ventilation, you may want to opt for the odor less variety. Arista, Kodak, Ilford are pretty equal. Black and White Chemicals \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies b) Rapid Fixer. Again, the key here is make sure it is a rapid fixer unless you enjoy spending extra time on your third tray pondering why you opted to save a few bucks in exchange for your time. I've used Clayton, Kodak, Arista, and Ilford. I can't get Clayton shipped to Hawaii, so I currently use Ilford Rapid Fixer. All these are fine for film and paper. c) If your water bills are not high, then you can skip this. But if you'd rather not waste water or money, then a hypo wash will reduce your wash times: Black and White Chemicals \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies d) For your negs, you'll want a wetting agent like Kodak Photo-Flo. Get the smallest bottle. It will last a lifetime due to the high dilution ratio. Black and White Chemicals \| Freestyle Photographic Supplies

09-05-2018, 11:42 AM	#14
BarneyL Site Supporter Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 941	I can recommend developers from small German company Spur, especially Spur HRX and Spur SLD. These are rather difficult to get outside Europe though.

09-05-2018, 11:50 AM	#15
tuco Pentaxian Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 11,339	I'd say for general purpose photography, the film you use will make more of a difference in nuance and tonality of the image than the developer you use.

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